Sunday, April 10, 2011

Jonathan Sanchez's BB/9

As a follow-up to my recent article on Jonathan Sanchez: Ross of Ross and the Heckler Speak suggested that there is still hope Sanchez can become an elite arm, citing Randy Johnson as an example. Johnson, as you might know, didn't truly become "elite" until age 29, when he suddenly began to walk batters at a much lower rate.

I wanted to see if there have been more pitchers, in the past, that have been able to shake their bad BB/9 habits at age 28 (or older). (I set 28 as the cut-off, because Johnson made the leap after his age-28 season, and Sanchez is currently 28.)

Here are the expansion-era starters who have had a BB/9 above 4.5 from ages 20-28 (min. 600 IP):

Rk Player BB/9 IP From To Age G GS ERA+
1 Bobby Witt 6.11 1173.0 1986 1992 22-28 191 188 89
2 Jason Bere 5.85 661.1 1993 1999 22-28 130 122 86
3 Randy Johnson 5.71 818.0 1988 1992 24-28 130 129 101
4 Nolan Ryan 5.43 1647.2 1968 1975 21-28 253 220 112
5 Daniel Cabrera 5.24 892.1 2004 2009 23-28 162 155 88
6 Dave Morehead 5.09 819.1 1963 1970 20-27 177 134 90
7 Oliver Perez 5.08 1111.2 2002 2010 20-28 206 195 91
8 Shawn Estes 4.74 990.0 1995 2001 22-28 160 160 98
9 J.R. Richard 4.74 1200.0 1971 1978 21-28 183 166 100
10 Steve Dunning 4.74 613.2 1970 1977 21-28 136 84 82
11 Ryan Dempster 4.72 1076.2 1998 2005 21-28 247 162 88
12 Shawn Chacon 4.69 740.1 2001 2006 23-28 190 115 95
13 Tom Griffin 4.66 933.2 1969 1976 21-28 210 134 86
14 Mike Torrez 4.60 1259.0 1967 1975 20-28 209 185 100
15 Jonathan Sanchez 4.59 617.1 2006 2011 23-28 157 101 101
16 Jimmy Haynes 4.59 894.2 1995 2001 22-28 170 147 83
17 Russ Ortiz 4.56 924.2 1998 2002 24-28 154 144 102
18 Balor Moore 4.56 644.0 1972 1979 21-28 143 93 89
19 Blue Moon Odom 4.56 1299.1 1965 1973 20-28 223 202 97
20 Jamey Wright 4.54 1055.2 1996 2003 21-28 178 175 94
21 Joe Sparma 4.54 864.2 1964 1970 22-28 183 142 87
22 Joe Decker 4.50 624.2 1969 1975 22-28 130 91 98
23 Mike Kekich 4.50 739.1 1965 1973 20-28 171 110 72
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/10/2011.

Now here's what those pitchers did after the age of 28:


Just five of those 22 pitchers (not including Sanchez, of course) managed to bring their BB/9 below four over the rest of their career. Five of them didn't even pitch after age 28, and just four managed an ERA+ over 100 post-28. J.R. Richard, Randy Johnson, and Ryan Dempster were able to bring down their BB/9 significantly, resulting in a boost in their status to what we would consider great -- though Dempster's SIERA has never been below 3.70, which is what Sanchez posted in 2010. Of course, if we're going by ERA+, Sanchez's ERA+ in 2010 was 133, which is already great (though quite  inflated, as fielding-independent stats indicate).

Now it's not entirely fair, because only a few of these pitchers had K rates above 8.0 (Sanchez's is above 9, of course). Those pitchers were: Nolan Ryan, Bobby Witt, Randy Johnson, and Oliver Perez.  Ryan had the same ERA+ up until age 28 as he did after age 28. Witt (whose K/9 was quite lower than Sanchez's -- but still above eight) failed to bring his BB/9 below four post-28, and was essentially slightly-below-average over the rest of his career. Johnson was the only one of these four to make that jump to elite status, and Oliver Perez's career is basically over now at the age of 29, as he's rapidly declined.

So what do we get from all of this? It is, in actuality, possible that Sanchez does develop into an elite arm. The one thing he has going for him is his extremely high K/9, which is quite a rarity. The truth is, Sanchez is quite a unique specimen, so it's not exactly easy to find comparisons for him.

However, while it's possible for him to significantly lower his BB/9 at this point in his career, it's against the odds. Pitchers who have had Sanchez's BB/9 habits up until the age of 28 have not generally been able to bring it back down to earth.

My expectations for Sanchez are as follows: he's clearly a great pitcher, and that will likely be the case over his next (and possibly final) two years with the Giants. But I don't think he'll ever manage an SIERA below three over the course of a full season (Randy Johnson's was as low as 1.69 in 2001, by the way). His BB/9 is preventing him from becoming an elite arm, and he likely won't overcome this problem.

-- I would also note that of all the pitchers here, Johnson is most comparable to Sanchez because of the high K and BB rates up until age 28. So that's certainly reason for optimism. --



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