I wanted to see if there have been more pitchers, in the past, that have been able to shake their bad BB/9 habits at age 28 (or older). (I set 28 as the cut-off, because Johnson made the leap after his age-28 season, and Sanchez is currently 28.)
Here are the expansion-era starters who have had a BB/9 above 4.5 from ages 20-28 (min. 600 IP):
Rk | Player | IP | From | To | Age | G | GS | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Bobby Witt | 6.11 | 1173.0 | 1986 | 1992 | 22-28 | 191 | 188 | 89 |
2 | Jason Bere | 5.85 | 661.1 | 1993 | 1999 | 22-28 | 130 | 122 | 86 |
3 | Randy Johnson | 5.71 | 818.0 | 1988 | 1992 | 24-28 | 130 | 129 | 101 |
4 | Nolan Ryan | 5.43 | 1647.2 | 1968 | 1975 | 21-28 | 253 | 220 | 112 |
5 | Daniel Cabrera | 5.24 | 892.1 | 2004 | 2009 | 23-28 | 162 | 155 | 88 |
6 | Dave Morehead | 5.09 | 819.1 | 1963 | 1970 | 20-27 | 177 | 134 | 90 |
7 | Oliver Perez | 5.08 | 1111.2 | 2002 | 2010 | 20-28 | 206 | 195 | 91 |
8 | Shawn Estes | 4.74 | 990.0 | 1995 | 2001 | 22-28 | 160 | 160 | 98 |
9 | J.R. Richard | 4.74 | 1200.0 | 1971 | 1978 | 21-28 | 183 | 166 | 100 |
10 | Steve Dunning | 4.74 | 613.2 | 1970 | 1977 | 21-28 | 136 | 84 | 82 |
11 | Ryan Dempster | 4.72 | 1076.2 | 1998 | 2005 | 21-28 | 247 | 162 | 88 |
12 | Shawn Chacon | 4.69 | 740.1 | 2001 | 2006 | 23-28 | 190 | 115 | 95 |
13 | Tom Griffin | 4.66 | 933.2 | 1969 | 1976 | 21-28 | 210 | 134 | 86 |
14 | Mike Torrez | 4.60 | 1259.0 | 1967 | 1975 | 20-28 | 209 | 185 | 100 |
15 | Jonathan Sanchez | 4.59 | 617.1 | 2006 | 2011 | 23-28 | 157 | 101 | 101 |
16 | Jimmy Haynes | 4.59 | 894.2 | 1995 | 2001 | 22-28 | 170 | 147 | 83 |
17 | Russ Ortiz | 4.56 | 924.2 | 1998 | 2002 | 24-28 | 154 | 144 | 102 |
18 | Balor Moore | 4.56 | 644.0 | 1972 | 1979 | 21-28 | 143 | 93 | 89 |
19 | Blue Moon Odom | 4.56 | 1299.1 | 1965 | 1973 | 20-28 | 223 | 202 | 97 |
20 | Jamey Wright | 4.54 | 1055.2 | 1996 | 2003 | 21-28 | 178 | 175 | 94 |
21 | Joe Sparma | 4.54 | 864.2 | 1964 | 1970 | 22-28 | 183 | 142 | 87 |
22 | Joe Decker | 4.50 | 624.2 | 1969 | 1975 | 22-28 | 130 | 91 | 98 |
23 | Mike Kekich | 4.50 | 739.1 | 1965 | 1973 | 20-28 | 171 | 110 | 72 |
Now here's what those pitchers did after the age of 28:
Just five of those 22 pitchers (not including Sanchez, of course) managed to bring their BB/9 below four over the rest of their career. Five of them didn't even pitch after age 28, and just four managed an ERA+ over 100 post-28. J.R. Richard, Randy Johnson, and Ryan Dempster were able to bring down their BB/9 significantly, resulting in a boost in their status to what we would consider great -- though Dempster's SIERA has never been below 3.70, which is what Sanchez posted in 2010. Of course, if we're going by ERA+, Sanchez's ERA+ in 2010 was 133, which is already great (though quite inflated, as fielding-independent stats indicate).
Now it's not entirely fair, because only a few of these pitchers had K rates above 8.0 (Sanchez's is above 9, of course). Those pitchers were: Nolan Ryan, Bobby Witt, Randy Johnson, and Oliver Perez. Ryan had the same ERA+ up until age 28 as he did after age 28. Witt (whose K/9 was quite lower than Sanchez's -- but still above eight) failed to bring his BB/9 below four post-28, and was essentially slightly-below-average over the rest of his career. Johnson was the only one of these four to make that jump to elite status, and Oliver Perez's career is basically over now at the age of 29, as he's rapidly declined.
So what do we get from all of this? It is, in actuality, possible that Sanchez does develop into an elite arm. The one thing he has going for him is his extremely high K/9, which is quite a rarity. The truth is, Sanchez is quite a unique specimen, so it's not exactly easy to find comparisons for him.
However, while it's possible for him to significantly lower his BB/9 at this point in his career, it's against the odds. Pitchers who have had Sanchez's BB/9 habits up until the age of 28 have not generally been able to bring it back down to earth.
My expectations for Sanchez are as follows: he's clearly a great pitcher, and that will likely be the case over his next (and possibly final) two years with the Giants. But I don't think he'll ever manage an SIERA below three over the course of a full season (Randy Johnson's was as low as 1.69 in 2001, by the way). His BB/9 is preventing him from becoming an elite arm, and he likely won't overcome this problem.
-- I would also note that of all the pitchers here, Johnson is most comparable to Sanchez because of the high K and BB rates up until age 28. So that's certainly reason for optimism. --
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